Poker on TV talk

[Zero]

Is it me, or is Chris Ferguson the most boring person to watch play poker?

Even Phil Ivey is more exciting, and thats not saying much.

Jennifer Tilly is being taken to school on PAD, she is so intimidated its not even funny.

Jennifer Harman isn't aging well. She is still cute though.

Lingdgren and Gordon sure did go at each other on PAD the first night. I wonder if the recent spat between the two has anything to do with that PAD appearance? I enjoy Gordons commentary most of the time, but he sure play scared on that PAD as well.

[pokerscribe]

Chris Ferguson is one of those guys who seems at first to have a personality because of the way he dresses, and the quirky skills like card-throwing and ballroom dancing. But in reality, there is nothing there, at least at the table.

I noticed that too. When Phil and Erik are providing most of your table talk, it's time to get a new table.

Jennifer Tilly is overmatched there, and she knows it.

I think that Phil Gordon's personality is coming out, and he seems to be very much of a whiny baby. I've seen him clash with Daniel Negreanu and now Erick Lindgren, two of the nicest guys in poker, over offhanded remarks that they've made. I think that Phil has a chip on his shoulder because he's not considered a top player like Ivey, Negreanu, and Lindgren, etc., and he takes everything personally. He needs to just relax and count his money and enjoy the charmed life he's been handed.

[CmeTilt]

Agree with you guys. Tilly is way overmatched and very intimidated. But nice tits, nonetheless.

Phil Gordon is showing his true colors. A true prick, if you ask me. This guy critisizes everyones play but his own. He may be a good poker player, but no where near the caliber of Ivey, Lindgren, Negreanu, Brunson, etc...not even close.

[chopz33]

she looks like she gained gained alot of weight since she has been plays cards..yea the rack looks ok but i think those are mostly fat tits

[Vanman]

she looks like she gained gained alot of weight since she has been plays cards..yea the rack looks ok but i think those are mostly fat tits

As opposed to non-fat tits?

Please find me some of those....NOT!

[chopz33]

well maybe that was worded wrong... but hers just look fatty

[thejim]

I think PAD was taped before the recent spat, but I think the two have to be related.

Phil Gordon has quite an ego, and I think he would agree. But, I also think he's sincere when he says he's not as good as the world-class players. He would like to be considered on their level, but knows he's not. The problem is that in poker, a person doesn't know what those better than him (or her) know, and so doesn't know what the difference is, making it easier to discount.

I think Phil Gordon is a good announcer and analyst (articles and DVDs and I would guess books). I really liked the old tiltboy stories, and have enjoyed getting to know some of those guys through e-mail and seeing Phil Gordon at BARGE last year. But, as he tries to become a great poker teacher and analyst, he is going to ruffle some feathers. The reason why I think he's good is because he explains all the basics very clearly. But, rarely have I heard him talk about anything beyond what I consider basic. And, despite his 4th place at the Main Event and win on the WPT, he doesn't have the skins that some of these guys do and he doesn't play the big cash games. So his play isn't as respected as some others and he goes on tv and the internet and criticizes the play of players more respected than he. Others are going to get upset, and I think he's got to understand why.

That said, I thought Lindgren admitting that he was upset mostly at getting caught on a bluff was big of him. And, Gordon not taking it too far and apologizing was big of him.

So, while I don't think they're ever going to be buddies, I respect them both a lot, and the situation probably enhanced that respect more than undermine it.

Watching Tilly is interesting. She knows when she's outclassed, and she knows her chest heaves when she's got a big hand, but she's in there mixing it up with these real pros, and other than the JJ hand, I think she's played fairly well (I haven't yet seen the 4th episode). I think it goes to show that a player with good basic abilities is not that far off from the pros, as long as he/she doesn't play scared.

As far as Chris Ferguson is concerned, I think I'm biased because of my respect for him, but I really enjoy him being in the lineup whenever I watch poker on TV.

[Hawkeye]

Phil Gordon is pretty articluate as an announcer and his books -- at least the one I've read -- are pretty good and easy to follow.

Still, I've never liked the guy -- not since 2004 when he used a pass to cut in front of me in line at the Bellagio Buffet. Plus he is so tall he towered over me like a little kid. I intend to hold a grudge against him forever for those two things.

I do like watching Chris Ferguson play. But the guy has a PhD in math -- just how exciting do you expect him to be?

As for Jennifer Tilly, she should be on every poker TV show that exists or will exist in the future.

[Lucky Chucky]

Tilly is way overmatched and very intimidated. But nice tits, nonetheless.

Mmmmm, you got that right...

[thejim]

I just watched last night's episode. Tilly made a couple nice plays, and Ivey questioned Gordon about his "unbelievable" comment. I reiterate that this is a really good show, even if I'm the only one that thinks so.

[on tilt]

i really like this show...as opposed to 14 hours of tourny play condensed into a one hour episode. i like to see all the insignificant hands and the banter between players

[Neko's Ohana]

i really like this show...as opposed to 14 hours of tourny play condensed into a one hour episode. i like to see all the insignificant hands and the banter between players

I like tillys titties. I could go for either the 14 hour version, or the one hour version.

Both work well for me.

[pokerscribe]

I'm with you, Jim. But I like the show for the banter mostly. And for that reason, here is my dream table of PAD players:

1. Doyle
2. David Grey
3. Gabe Kaplan
4. Mike Matusow
5. Steve Zolotow
6. Jennifer Tilly/Clonie Gowen/Dee Luong/Shana Hiatt/Shannon Elizabeth/any of the waitresses from High Stakes/Rebel's Asian Stripper

[CmeTilt]

But the guy has a PhD in math -- just how exciting do you expect him to be?

Actually he has a PhD in Artificial Intelligence but not that it matters much.

[Lucky Chucky]

But the guy has a PhD in math -- just how exciting do you expect him to be?

Actually he has a PhD in Artificial Intelligence but not that it matters much.

Bah! All that book learnin' is over rated. My education ain't fetched me one bit a help at that thar poker table.

[Action Greggo]

That picture of Tilly has to be from 1989. She hasn't been that thin in a long time. She is overrated, much in the way that Neko overrates Annie Duke. Just because you play poker doesnt make you a hottie. But I thought she did play pretty good in the PAD, and really got unlucky vs. Ivey and others. You could tell that they were looking at her like "what the hell"....

Jennifer Harman isn't aging well, but you should probably throw her a break. She went through years of dialysis, a kidney transplant, more dialysis after her replacement kidney failed, and in 2005 or so a second kidney transplant....

Despite all that -- not hot.. Good player, plays the highest levels, but not hot.

I used to really like Gordon. Us tall guys have to stick together, but his commentary in PAD and other events makes me think of him just as he was described......whiney. Win a WSOP bracelet and then get back to us.

I like Ivey and I like Ferguson.....

[iamaclone]

Did any of you know that Tilly is 48? Wow!

[Zero]

Yeh, I knew she was 48. She is a very hot 48 no question.