Razz How To

[TommyTwoToes]

would some one care to write a "razz how to"

I am not just talking about these are the rules... but what kind of starting hands etc people should be looking for ...

[thejim]

Very basically, the bad razz players make the same mistake as bad players at any game. They play too many hands. Either they don't know, or very commonly, they see someone else outdraw their A23 with K95. You want at least (most) 3 cards to an eight. Sometimes you'll win with a 9, T, or J, but you don't need to start with one. The more low cards you see behind you, the worse your hand gets. Position IS important (some people think it's not since it's a bring-in game as opposed to a game with a moving button), especially (obviously) on 3rd. Your board, and your opponents' boards, are more important than their down cards. When starting, don't try to "read" your opponent, because you'll end up giving them a high card or a pair when you're drawing dead. Look for reasons to fold, especially on 5th street, when it gets expensive. Usually, if you're calling on 5th, you're calling on 6th. And you're always in on 7th (unless you brick and have to play a pair), when you've called on 6th.

As you get better, remembering the discards, reading people (especially betting patterns), and knowing the odds become important, but you can win against bad players with good hand selection and discipline.

Any specific questions?

[thejim]

Sometimes you can play perfect Razz for 5 hours and only net $5. In those times, keep a cool head and enjoy the ride.

[Cajun]

thanks for the how to jim

[thejim]

thanks for the how to jim

You're welcome. Next step, after you win at razz, don't give it back playing HU LHE.

[Cajun]

thanks again

[Zero]

Sometimes you can play perfect Razz for 5 hours and only net $5. In those times, keep a cool head and enjoy the ride.

So its enjoyable to play for 5 hours and only net $5?

[petric]

One very basic in Razz is, cards which have folded are important in this game. The strength of this hand will be greatly affected by those cards you have seen fold. If you are dealt a ace,2 or 3 as your up-card but have terrible hole-cards you may be in a position to launch a 4th street bluff. If 4th street brings you another low card you should bet out, especially when your opponents catch high cards. Do not over-do this move, if you are called again on 5th street then you need to make a legitimate hand, this is because the size of the pot has grown so large as to give your opponents attractive pot-odds to chase.Finally draws to weak lows should be avoided.