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Winstar Entry Chips
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itsoverjonny



Joined: 10 Jun 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Winstar Entry Chips  

I won a seat this weekend, and they gave me Sunday, August 17th. I don't want to play on this day - I would prefer Wednesday or Thursday.

Does anyone here (grunkzzz, DavidN, etc.) have a chip for a different day that you are willing to trade for my Sunday chip?
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on tilt



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject:  

what was your impression of the satelite?
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itsoverjonny



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject:  

It wasn't bad, especially when you consider the venue. 5k chips, 30-minute levels. The only bad step in the structure is when it goes from Level 4 100-200 (cost per round=300) to Level 5 200-400-25 (cost per round=850). The rest of the structure was reasonable.

As usual they are a little disorganized, and at this point I don't think it's fair to say that they are still "learning". Lots of "procedures" in place for registration, but no one seems to know why they are doing the things they do.

The tournament clock died when we were down to around four tables (never to be resurrected), and the power flickered a lot and went out completely for about 15 seconds at one point during the final table.

At one point as we approached the bubble (55 players got a chip on Sunday), half of the tables were playing hand-for-hand, and the other half weren't. There were six tables (two rows of three tables, both rows right next to each other), so it should have been easy for the TD's to have a firm grasp on six tables, but they allowed players to get up and mill around and watch the all-ins on other tables, so it was mass confusion. They need to insist that players stay in their seats close to the bubble to avoid the confusion.

Winstar adds $20k cash for the final table, so there is some nice overlay. I came in 8th for $800. Basically, they are losing money on the satellites in order to fill the main event. There were around 288-289 players on Sunday, so they took in about $11,500 in entry fees and paid out $20,000.

Basically, it wasn't your typical "all-in fest" - even at the final table, most stacks were big enough to fold to a reraise, which is unusual. All in all, they are doing a pretty good job, and there is a lot of value in the satellite. I bought in directly to the Mega ($400+40), but I talked to several people that said that the $55 and $110 SNG's are an easy route to get in.

Most of the play was pretty bad, which means that those of us that usually get our money in good will have to dodge the suckouts. I also noticed a LOT of players that have no clue how to bet to protect their hand. As a result, my starting hand standards were VERY loose for about the first 60-70% of the tournament. I saw lots of limpers in almost every hand, and if I flopped ANYTHING, I was usually able to draw very cheaply. In one hand, I flopped middle pair with 8-9 on a board of K-8-2 rainbow. A player in early position bet 300 into a pot of 1800 with two more callers in front of me. So of course I call, and of course I catch trips on the turn. I end up busting one player, who proceeds to berate me for calling with 2nd pair, weak kicker on the flop. I just smile and say "Yeah, I got really lucky".
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davidn



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Winstar Entry Chips  

itsoverjonny wrote: I won a seat this weekend, and they gave me Sunday, August 17th. I don't want to play on this day - I would prefer Wednesday or Thursday.

Does anyone here (grunkzzz, DavidN, etc.) have a chip for a different day that you are willing to trade for my Sunday chip?

I don't care what day i play...i HAVE 2 Monday chips...I will be glad to trade one for your sunday chip...I plan to play all the $440's so i should win few more chips anyway...
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itsoverjonny



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Winstar Entry Chips  

davidn wrote: I don't care what day i play...i HAVE 2 Monday chips...I will be glad to trade one for your sunday chip...I plan to play all the $440's so i should win few more chips anyway...

Thanks for the offer David. My birthday is around then and I will be either drunk or hungover during most of the Sunday-Tuesday time period. Win a Wednesday or Thursday chip and I'll be very happy to trade.
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easytiger



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject:  

Jonny, you're going to be 60. You should slow down on the partying.
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itsoverjonny



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject:  

easytiger wrote: Jonny, you're going to be 60. You should slow down on the partying.

Nah. I saw what Social Security is going to pay me, and it's not enough to live on. I'd rather go out in flames than die slowly from bed sores caused by constantly shitting my pants.
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Nekosohana



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject:  

itsoverjonny wrote: easytiger wrote: Jonny, you're going to be 60. You should slow down on the partying.

Nah. I saw what Social Security is going to pay me, and it's not enough to live on. I'd rather go out in flames than die slowly from bed sores caused by constantly shitting my pants.

I have this already. They pay you to have this?
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itsoverjonny



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject:  

Nekosohana wrote: itsoverjonny wrote: easytiger wrote: Jonny, you're going to be 60. You should slow down on the partying.

Nah. I saw what Social Security is going to pay me, and it's not enough to live on. I'd rather go out in flames than die slowly from bed sores caused by constantly shitting my pants.

I have this already. They pay you to have this?

Sadly, no.
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CmeTilt



Joined: 12 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject:  

Nekosohana wrote: itsoverjonny wrote: easytiger wrote: Jonny, you're going to be 60. You should slow down on the partying.

Nah. I saw what Social Security is going to pay me, and it's not enough to live on. I'd rather go out in flames than die slowly from bed sores caused by constantly shitting my pants.

I have this already. They pay you to have this?

Too much gravy?
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Nekosohana



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject:  

CmeTilt wrote: Nekosohana wrote: itsoverjonny wrote: easytiger wrote: Jonny, you're going to be 60. You should slow down on the partying.

Nah. I saw what Social Security is going to pay me, and it's not enough to live on. I'd rather go out in flames than die slowly from bed sores caused by constantly shitting my pants.

I have this already. They pay you to have this?

Too much gravy?

Oooh gravy!

(I'm desperately trying to not have a gravy belly, but it's fucking hard to lose weight when you are as fat as me.)
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CmeTilt



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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject:  

Nekosohana wrote: CmeTilt wrote: Nekosohana wrote: itsoverjonny wrote: easytiger wrote: Jonny, you're going to be 60. You should slow down on the partying.

Nah. I saw what Social Security is going to pay me, and it's not enough to live on. I'd rather go out in flames than die slowly from bed sores caused by constantly shitting my pants.

I have this already. They pay you to have this?

Too much gravy?

Oooh gravy!

(I'm desperately trying to not have a gravy belly, but it's fucking hard to lose weight when you are as fat as me.)

We know Neko...Tom reminds us how hard it is every fucking day.
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